8 years ago

@missgaijin Mostly I agree. It's hard to recommend this as it fails to give people with depression and suicidal thoughts an alternative, something good. It just feels like guilt tripping them very hard to not commit suicide because of all the peopel left behind. That is not enough. Especially considering the producers wanted to make it painful to watch and the last 3 episodes were incredibly difficult to watch and then it ended and I just felt miserable for days because I can somewhat relate to Clay, although luckily no one around me has killed him-/herself.<br /> <br /> But I disagree on your part with maturity and that no one notices the little signs of crying for help. <br /> The latter happens, it's discussed at length that tiny things may come off as big things to others.<br /> The former is a misinterpetration on your part. Hannah was to a degree mature, yes, but she was depressive and misinterpreted the behaviour of others. A very clear sign was when she said to Porter [spoiler]who asks "What about Clay Jensen?" - "Clay Jensen hates me." - while he clearly does not hate her[/spoiler]. But she couldn't see it because she was suffering from depression at that point. Depression clouds your thoughts and makes everything around you negative and you only see confirmation for your own negative thoughts, even if you are trying to look at it positively [spoiler]waiting for Porter to come out of his office[/spoiler].

8 years ago

@ds1 thank you for your response, it could have been that the show failed on showing more clearly that Hannah was suffering from depression. Maybe due to her only focusing on the reasons why (naming people), instead of elaborating on how she was feeling on a daily basis after the events. Or maybe it was me due a lack of personal experiences in this matter.<br /> I agree with you that the last episodes were tremendously painful to watch. I still discover my mind going back to those scenes feeling utterly sad. I also strongly related to Clay even though, as you said, I was lucky nobody around me commited suicide.

8 years ago

@missgaijin In some scenes the depression was visible, even if you never had depression. But I guess they are easy to miss as the focus - mostly around the middle - turns too often too much away from Hannah herself and deals more with all the other characters involved in her death instead of her mental state. That's perhaps another missed opportunity of this show.<br /> <br /> It would have helped to overcome the terrible sadness of the end if Katherine Langford would have been in other, happier TV series or movies but nope, she's a newcomer. :(